Sig P365 Laying on Holster

Is the Sig P365 Still the Best Handgun For Concealed Carry in 2020?

That’s a big question to ask and we’ve got a long answer. The P365 premiered in 2018 and was unlike any gun we’d ever seen before. It was the size of a single stack 9mm with the capacity of a subcompact double stack. SIG designed a unique magazine that maximized the gun’s size efficiency. The P365 got it’s namesake because its a firearm you can carry every day of the year.

The P365 ships with two 10 round magazines, but upon release, a slightly extended 12 rounder was available. Shortly after, SIG released a monstrous 15 round magazine as well. The P365 came out of the box, ready to be carried. It sported night sights, came with a pinky extension and proved to be a very easy shooting gun.

Does the P365 still stand up, though? It’s been almost two years, and it’s a fair question. The gun industry is one that moves fast, and competition is stiff. Has the P365 been outdone? Is it a one-trick pony? Well, let’s talk about it.

Sig P365 compared to Sig P365 XL and Sig P365 MS

Sig P365’s Shaky Start

The P365 premiered at SHOT to critical acclaim. The gun was absolutely genius. Its design had never been seen before, and it was a genuinely innovative gun in a stale market. Upon launch, the firearm sold like hotcakes until SIG stopped shipping them. It was immediately added to our list of best concealed carry handguns.

SIG found out the sights they were shipping with the guns were failing to glow in the dark. Also, the initial batch of weapons was proving to have weak strikers and was breaking very early into their round counts. SIG wisely stopped production and offered fixes to customers who already purchased the guns.

They fixed the problems and began producing the weapons once more. This could have been disastrous, but SIG seemed to maintain their momentum, and the guns now are getting into high round counts without issues. My P365 is sitting at more than 3K rounds at this point and still ticking.

Same Sig P365, Different Models

Sig P365 in hand with 15 round magazine is the best handgun for concealed carry Sig P365 is still the best handgun for concealed carry Sig P365MS is one of the best handguns for concealed carry in 2020

The P365 sports the same modular frame mechanic the P320 does. The serialized portion legally considered a firearm is a chassis that can be removed and swapped between different frames, opening up the potential for one gun to easily change the size and fit into different configurations. SIG has also been quite quick to release new arrangements.

Having different configurations and options most certainly keeps a gun present. It also helps the gun appeal to a broader crowd. A lot of P365 owners may be happy with the first model, but some may desire something a little different.

It started with the XL model. A slightly larger gun that used a longer barrel and grip with 12 round magazines stock and could use the 15 rounders to add a little more firepower to the overall package. The XL model also brought with a flat-faced trigger and was optic ready. The optic plate used the Shield RSM/c or SIG’s new Romeo Zero micro red dot.

Differences between the Sig P365 and P365XL

Multiple Sig P365 Models Next to each other

Following that, SIG released the SAS model. SAS stands for SIG Anti Snag, and its been a configuration they’ve done before with other guns. Anti Snag means they reduced all possible snag points to make the weapon easy to draw from deep concealment. This includes popping the sights off entirely and installing a unique sighting system. Known as the FT Bullseye tritium night sight, you get a sighting system that sits flush with the slide and is virtually only a rear sight.

However, the sight works by featuring three dots that you have to line up to accurately shoot. This ensures the gun is plenty precise at concealed carry ranges. It’s tricky to get accustomed to, but not impossible. It takes a little retraining, but at 15 yards, you can make headshots. Beyond 15 to 20 yards and things get a little harder accuracy wise. The SAS Model also made the slide lock and takedown lever flush fitting to the frame.

The gun is also ported to reduce muzzle rise, and this works surprisingly well. It creates some flash, but not enough to blind you. The SAS P365 has proven to be quite popular and is flying off shelves.

Additionally, we got the Coyote NRA edition P365 and a two-tone stainless model. SIG released a TACPAC model with three 12 round magazines as well. There are lots of different P365s floating around, and that certainly helps with the P365’s staying power. Here’s a deeper analysis of the Sig P365XL vs the Sig P365.

What About the Aftermarket for the Sig P365?

The aftermarket is another reason guns succeed. The more they are supported, the more appealing they become. Glock is an excellent example of this. You can buy a base model Glock and turn it into just about anything you want. The P365 has been met by the industry wholeheartedly. Clinger Holsters had Sig P365 Holsters for sale just days after the pistol’s release.

Sig P365 Holsters ready at release

Sig P365 in a Holster

From holsters to new triggers, sights, baseplates, magazine releases, and more, the P365 has a healthy aftermarket. Hell, you can even install your P365 into a new frame. I used an all-metal Icarus Precision ACE Grip for my P365. This completely changed how the gun handles and feels.

You have light options from Streamlight and SIG Sauer, as well as various laser options. It goes on and on. The aftermarket supports the SIG P365 rather well, and the gun’s popularity tends to help the aftermarket grow.

With SHOT Show right around the corner, we may see new P365s as well as unique accessories and more. SIG has released grip modules, slides, and other features that allow you to change your P365 around. Part of the gun’s staying power is people’s ability to modify, carry, and enjoy it.

Does the Sig P365 Have Competition?

Since I mentioned the SHOT Show, I might as well mention the gun’s potential for competition. Without a doubt, we might see something new and extreme hit us in the face and outclass the P365. However, that gun won’t have the P365’s logistics or aftermarket for quite some time.

As it sits, the P365 doesn’t have a whole lot of competition. Only one gun comes close, and it’s the Springfield Hellcat. In fact, there’s a great Sig P365 vs Springfield Hellcat article on our Gun Blog. The Glock 43X and 48 offer the same capacity but are much larger than the P365. You can also see great articles on Sig P365XL vs the Glock 43X  or  the Sig P365 vs the Glock 43 on our Gun Blog too.

Sig P365XL Laying Next to Glock 43X

Springfield Hellcat next to Sig P365XL

The Hellcat is made by HS out of Croatia and imported by Springfield. The Hellcat offers 11 to 13 rounds in the same size package as the P365. This 11 round magazine edges out the P365 by a single round. The Hellcat does come ready to carry with an excellent set of night sights, two magazines, and an optional pinky extension.

The Springfield Hellcat also comes in an optic’s ready model. The only optic’s ready P365 is the XL model. Shorter guns get more benefit from mini red dots because their sight radius doesn’t matter with a mini red dot. I would say the smaller, optics ready Hellcat is a brilliant idea. I’d like to see a standard P365 with optic options from the factory.

How much competition is the Hellcat? Fair question. The XD series of which the Hellcat is part of has never been as successful as SIG’s handguns. Their Croatian design turns some off, as do some of their design choices. This isn’t to knock the XD series or the Hellcat. Sig Sauer just has a much better built-in fan base and better brand name when it comes to handguns.

The Hellcat will give SIG a reason to keep improving, but I don’t think it offers enough to make P365 owners switch sides. Competition is healthy, and I want SIG to have more to force them to keep innovating. Unfortunately, competition for this gun is slim, and maybe SHOT 2020 will give it a real challenge.

Who’s Issuing the Sig P365?

Vertical view of the Sig P365XL

When police or military forces adopt a gun, you can see it’s lifespan increase significantly. The P365 isn’t going to be approved by any military anytime soon, but police forces have taken a look at it. As the law enforcement market is going back to 9mm, the P365 is getting some attention.

While it’s too small for use as a duty gun, it has been approved as a backup gun by two police departments. Sumter Police in South Carolina was the first to adopt the P365 as a backup gun. Following the South Carolina adoption, we saw the Indiana State Police choose the P365 as their backup gun of choice.

The P365 will likely see an excellent career as a backup gun in the hands of many more police officers. The P320 is quickly becoming a favorite, and this helps open the doors for the smaller P365. As more police forces adopt it, you’ll see more and more attention given to it by casual shooters.

Casual Shooters and Mass Appeal

Most people reading this blog are likely more informed than your average casual shooter. We may be pickier and more knowledgeable, but the majority of shooters are not. You see, the casual concealed carrier rules the market. The P365 most certainly appeals to them.

Weight and size are one reason why. Add on the features, the capacity, and the price, and you’ve captured the casual shooting market. Factor in the reputable and somewhat legendary name SIG and you’ll attract more of it. People have heard of SIG, and their guns are popular in military and police forces.

On top of that, the P365 has won numerous awards. Shooting Illustrated, an NRA publication, has named it the Handgun of the Year. The SAS model was named Best New Handgun at the National Association of Sporting Goods Wholesalers-Professional Outdoor Media Association’s awards. The P365 also won handgun of the year from Guns and Ammo magazine.

If someone were googling and searching for a small gun that’s proven popular, the P365 would prove to be a very popular gun. It has instant mass appeal to new shooters. If a casual shooter went as far as to go to a gun range and rent a gun, the P365 would be on the shelf due to its popularity.

It’s also a soft shooting gun that’s easy to rack, accurate, and has a great trigger. All features any shooter could appreciate. My friend owns a gun store and says the P365 sells itself. People like the way it feels, it’s capacity and its size. He can hardly keep them on the shelves. I mean it was in John Wick 3 guys, it’s popular.

The Sig P365 In 2020: Still the Best Concealed Carry Handgun

If SIG is smart, they’ll use SHOT to launch a new model of the P365, potentially a legion model, and keep their momentum going. SIG is a huge company, but the P365 is most certainly a big seller. SHOT 2020 may also bring competition to bear.

Sig P365 and Sig P365XL

If it does, that competition still needs to prove itself against the P365’s flag-bearing status. They’ll also need to get holsters, accessories, magazines, and excellent logistics to compete. Best case scenario, a company releases a competitor to the P365 and can get accessories, upgrades, and guns in the hands of reviewers. They still need to build public trust.

That takes time, effort, and a lot of marketing. It’s possible, but I don’t think it can be done in a year. The P365 was so successful so fast because it was the first gun of its type. Another company won’t have that same opportunity that SIG had. They have to fight their way uphill.

Long Live the King of Concealed Carry

I don’t think the SIG P365 will be unseated in 2020. I think it will remain the king and the competition will have to fight hard in 2020 to unseat the SIG P365 in 2021. The only real competition SIG would have is from Glock, but Glock is slow-moving and won’t bring a competitor to bear for another five years at best. For now, the P365 remains the champ of concealed carry guns. SIG did a great job designing the weapon and was fast to fix the small issues they ran into. The gun will be around for a long time, folks.

For now, all we can say is long live the king.

Sig P365 Pistols with magazines laying next to them

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12 replies
  1. Henry
    Henry says:

    I’ve always love XD pistols. My main gripe was the weight. They were always heavier than they should be. Sure, it helped with recoil but it hurt with concealed carry.
    I’ve already started carrying the Hellcat with a Shield Red Dot. This thing is awesome.
    At the range, my buddy and me had a competition with his P365XL. He had the same Shield Red Dot that I did. It’s the RMSc.
    Anyway, we both agreed that the Hellcat’s trigger was better. He’s a Sig guy and hated to admit that. That being said, we both were pretty even on both pistols. We swapped them back and forth a few times.
    Both pistols were pretty much dead even for accuracy, recoil control, and reliability. At least in our opinion. We’re not even close to expert handgunners.
    They both look to be evenly priced too. They’re almost exactly the same size and weight too. I will say that the 13th round went into the Hellcat easier than the 12th round went into the P365XL. The mag was hard to fully seat in the Sig when the last round is loaded.

    Anyway grab whichever one feels best to you. They are both perfect CCW guns.

  2. Johnny Pete
    Johnny Pete says:

    Sig P365 XL is true quality. I don’t think the Croations will ever match Sig’s quality.
    I’ll take the P365XL anyday!!!

  3. H. Smith
    H. Smith says:

    Johnny, I highly disagree with your “Croatia” comment. I’ve had XD pistols for years and have NEVER had a “quality problem”. In fact my XDs Mod.2 has had zero malfunctions and my Glock 43 has had a few of them. We’re supposed to trust the Austrian’s and we’re supposed to trust Sig but nothing good can come from Croatia?
    I recall Sig having many issues with their P365 when it was first released!!! I have heard NOTHING about quality problems from the Hellcat!
    By the way, I’ve had the Hellcat for a while and it’s had zero malfunctions.

  4. JJ
    JJ says:

    I don’t see anyone catching Sig. They were the first to market with the pistol that everyone else was too lazy to envision. They were out long enough to work out all the kinks before anyone else could get something to market.
    Sig P365XL FTW.

  5. Adam
    Adam says:

    The Sig P365 changed the way I conceal carry. I carry everyday now. I don’t have to try as hard to conceal now either. I used to carry a Sig P320 Subcompact with 12 rounds.
    Now I carry the P365 with a 12 round mag and one in the pipe with a 15 round mag in reserve.
    That’s 28 rounds in a pistol that I can shoot extremely well. I can keep a 4 inch grouping at 7 yards with rapid fire.
    I feel very well prepared with this pistol.
    However, I can wear clothes that wouldn’t conceal the P320 Subcompact well enough when I’m carry the P365.
    Bottom line? I love it and don’t care what anyone else comes out with.
    I don’t need more than 28 rounds. I don’t need more accuracy.

  6. Bob Gorgino
    Bob Gorgino says:

    The P365 was the pistol that got my wife to carry. She couldn’t shoot the LCP very well that I got her. She didn’t feel comfortable with the cocked and locked nature of the P238 I got her.
    She likes the small size of the p365 with the flush mag. But more importantly, she can SHOOT IT WELL.
    The way I see it, this is the best handgun on the market.

  7. Glock Man
    Glock Man says:

    I respect Sig for raising the bar but Glock passed them real quick with the Glock 43X and Glock 48.
    10+1 in a sweeeeet shooting Glock beats whatever Sig can dream up anyday. My Glock goes bang every time and I trust it to go bang every time. I had a Sig P250 once. It did not go bang every time. nuff said.

  8. Zeke Jones
    Zeke Jones says:

    I carry my P365 every day. It’s all I need. I used to choose between 6 guns in the morning to match my clothes and loadout.
    Now I only have 3: P938, P365, and P365XL. (I also have the 15 round mag option)
    The 2 Sigs replaced the P320sc, P320c, P320RX, P320 full size, Glock 43.
    I love the reduction in my morning selection with the same capabilities.

  9. Niels
    Niels says:

    I wonder how much SIG paid for this or is this just sucking up to the big boys. This is splitting hairs. It is more up to individual taste. SIG had problems when they came out. I have a 1000 rounds through my Hellcat and zero problems of any kind. Both fine guns.

  10. A Cody
    A Cody says:

    The Springfield XDs and XDe both have grip and/or manual safeties whereas Springfield did not include at least a grip safety on the Hellcat. Besides the XDs and XDe are both larger more in line with, say, H&K’s P30SK. I shot both the Hellcat and P365 before deciding on the P365. The Hellcat is decidedly snappier than the Sig, and without a safety the gun becomes just another “Glock” spinoff. I absolutely like the Hellcat’s sights better, but I went with the P365MS because I won’t carry any pistol without a safety on it, especially a striker fired gun. The accidental discharge statistics are too great to ignore. I know many will disagree but with practice (and I practice a lot) taking a safety off is second nature. I will admit that if the Hellcat had a grip safety I may have gone with that gun.

  11. esdubya
    esdubya says:

    Overall good summary of the P365’s virtues. But you left out the part about SIG’s arrogance during its early teething days and their continuing to deny some remaining problems like the poorly-designed curved trigger pinching where it pushes the finger straight up into the sharp-edged grip/housing. While more annoying when dry-fire practicing—which should be a regular part of one’s training and practice—it could have been corrected with a better curved trigger design, ala the S&W J-frame’s shape which catches and stops the top of the finger from being pushed up into the frame, and also rounding off and softening the razor-sharp front edge at the top, front of the trigger opening. The straight replacement trigger made it less of an issue but you will have to pay for it, and they still won’t acknowledge the problem, even though they install the straight trigger on the XL.
    Also, knocking Springfield’s products and quality was totally inappropriate and without merit, lacking supporting evidence and considering that their firearms are among the best and most reliable in the world, including their new Hellcat’s successful market entry.
    And finally, while it is certainly nice to have the aftermarket embrace the P365 the way it has, and being this article is posted on the Clinger blog, why doesn’t Clinger offer a single holster for the P365 with any of the attached light, and/or laser options so praised for being out there and even being shown in one of the photos with the article? In what brand holster do you carry your 365 with the TLR-6 attached? Or, if they do offer them, where is it found because there are no drop down choices other than Rt or Lt handed when considering ordering a holster?

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